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[Ebook] ➥ Parzival Author Wolfram von Eschenbach – Livre-game-of-thrones.co chapter 1 Parzival, meaning Parzival, genre Parzival, book cover Parzival, flies Parzival, Parzival ed46465a2612f Composed In The Early Thirteenth Century, Wolfram Von Eschenbach S Parzival Is The Re Creation And Completion Of The Story Left Unfinished By Its Initiator Chretien De Troyes It Follows Parzival From His Boyhood And Career As A Knight In The Court Of King Arthur To His Ultimate Achievement As King Of The Temple Of The Grail, Which Wolfram Describes As A Life Giving Stone As A Knight Serving The German Nobility In The Imperial Hohenstauffen Period, The Author Was Uniquely Placed To Describe The Zest And Colour Of His Hero S World, With Dazzling Depictions Of Courtly Luxury, Jousting And Adventure Yet This Is Not Simply A Tale Of Chivalry, But An Epic Quest For Spiritual Education, As Parzival Must Conquer His Ignorance And Pride And Learn Humility Before He Can Finally Win The Holy Grail


10 thoughts on “Parzival

  1. says:

    Wolfram von Eschenbach s Parzival is one of those stories where the you put into it, the you get out of it I just want to preface this review by saying that any review of this book will be lacking, as the allusions, subtexts and connections made by Wolfram are truly astounding This really is one of those books where each re reading will bring out new ideas worth exploring further My focus here will be relegated to one area that particularly struck me on my first reading.Parzival, among other things, is in many respects a reflection of the collective western European conscience during the horror of the Crusades, as well as its sense of doubt that they were acting in God s will when they finally lost control of Jerusalem about 20 years before Wolfram wrote Parzival There is also a strong indication of the seeds of the Renaissance, Enlightenment, and Europe s eventual secularism I was originally attracted to the story because of the mystical elements of it, in the allusions to various elements of Kabbalah and alchemy, and there is a lot I could say about that still, but my immediate focus shifted after finishing the book to socio historical concerns.First of all, and significantly for a society which was extremely patriarchal, women are the true heroes here, showing the men through example how to live It is said that only men seek the Grail, because women already possess it While most women in the story are free of falsity , humble and gentle with the exception of Orgeleuse and Cundrie, who don t take shit from anyone but still teach much to the men around them perhaps than anyone else , the men are mostly prancing around the countryside looking to start shit for nothing than vanity, pride and fame The men wear a thin veneer of humility and honor through their knightly traditions and ways, but they are usually just going through the motions without understanding the underlying meaning, and will jump at the chance to deviate from those ways if it will benefit them in some way The arc of the storyline itself is embedded in the names of the three main women in Parzival s life Herzeloyde, his mother Heart s Sorrow , Condwiramurs Love Leads the Way , and Repanse de Schoye Overflowing Happiness.There are also several political threads running through the story Parzival s father, Gahmuret, claims he will only serve the best and most powerful lord, who ends up being Muslim That alone must have raised some eyebrows among some of the elite who were familiar with Wolfram s book This notion is later reinforced when Feirefiz, also a Muslim, is shown to be one of the most upstanding knights in the story, not to mention the fact that King Arthur, the ideal of European royalty, is sometimes portrayed as something of a reactionary dolt instead of as a true leader.Now the Grail, in one of its main symbolic functions, represents a mobile altar where the Eucharist would be served, which would have been used anytime Mass was performed throughout the story This effectively means that while Parzival is roaming the earth looking for the Grail, it is always right there, under his and the readers noses, but we cannot see it for what it is initially ever Blindness is infact a running theme throughout the novel There is a narrative device which frames this wonderfully when in the beginning of Parzival s adventures he ignorantly kills Sir Ither, the Red Knight, by throwing a javelin through his eye, and at the end of the story, his brother Feirefiz is granted the ability to see the Grail when he becomes baptized I believe this story is where western Europe begins to show the extent of it s infatuation with Aristotle Without going into too much detail for the sake of brevity, Plato essentially believed in ideal Forms as the true reality of our world and often reads like a Taoist at times than what we might think of today as a philosopher, while his student Aristotle broke with this and said objects and things in and of themselves were the extent of our reality Basically, it is the difference between as above, so below , and as below, so above It might seem like a negligible difference at first, but there are very wide ranging implications involved, especially if one assumes one or the other without ever really asking themselves why on anything than a superficial level This relates to the story insofar as the people who can no longer experience a mystical connection with God begin searching instead for God within physical objects, thus creating the need to search for a Grail In the real world during this time, the Catholic Church was doing essentially the same thing by misinterpreting the idea of a Holy Land as an actual, physical location which God somehow needed us to take back for Him This line of thinking continued after the Crusades in the form of Dante s vision of hell as a physical location instead of as a spiritual orientation , and in the Protestant s general embrace of chiliasm, which had already been declared a heresy by the early Church It is worth mentioning here that the Crusades began 50 years after the Great Schism, when the scholastically inclined Western Church officially broke off from the mystically inclined Eastern Churches I believe this is at least part of the point which Wolfram was trying to make, albeit subtly because of the sensitivity of the issue, because his description of the Grail procession borrows much from the Byzantine Rite of St John Chrysostom, which was and still is in use in the Orthodox Church Wolfram was also writing his story only 3 5 years after the Fourth Crusade, in which the ancient seat of the Eastern Church, Constantinople, was sacked by Crusaders who were diverted from their original goal because of lack of funds There is also the thread in the story of brother fighting brother based on ignorance and naivety, in Parzival s fight with his brother Feirefiz, but also in his encounters with Gawan and Ither, whom are his cousins Wolfram purposefully made all of the main characters in the story related to each other to make a larger point about how, in his view, all humans were related as sons and daughters of Adam and Eve In this view, all war is reprehensible as an act of fratricide, and merely a replay of the story of Cain and Abel.Of course, the seeds of the Renaissance, and ultimately, secular humanism as we know it today, go back much further than this, but this story in my mind really serves as a sort of tipping point in the history of this idea, where we see it transformed from the notion of a few people writing in books to an a priori way of looking at the world adopted by a whole society.


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    Another reviewer for this book wrote, The you put into Parzival, the you get out And I couldn t agree Waldorf students are all required to read this book in 11th Grade, and the comments from the students about the block and the book are quite mixedalthough most are negative This is a very dense and antiquated book, and to read it without a curriculum would take perseverance However, once I broke into it, I began to enjoy it immensely It s really just an Arthurian tale, but so old that the magic and the stories seem much true, somehow And Parzival s character development, is, or less, the basis for the entirety of Rudolph Steiner s theory of human development it s all very interesting And the story and characters can be connected to anything The seven main women can represent the planets, which in turn represent different stages in Parzival s life I had a wonderful and fascinating time reading this book, and I feel like anthroposophy has helped me understand it on a very deep level.


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    Most persons know the literary sources of the grail legends from Malory s Death of Arthur, a very late, derivative source and, unless edited for modern readers, not very readable For the early material, look into Chretien s uncompleted Perceval and Wolfram von Eschenbach s Parzival Chretien is short, sometimes even funny Wolfram s is much longer, covering much material and probably difficult in a translation which attempts to closely follow the poetic form of the original Happily, this version is one quite accessible to the modern non specialist.


  4. says:

    I optimistically anticipate being able to review this in the not too distant future.


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    This book is so beautiful Don t bother if you don t want to wade through a bunch of medieval weirdness what do they have against the Welsh And is everybody that s ugly REALLY going to be evil, all the time But then again that s part of the fun It s hard to tell how much of this is crazy worldbuilding by the author, and how much he s actually representative of the values of this time either way, it makes a cultural thing that s pretty familiar King Arthur Britain and makes it seem incredibly foreign Everything is over the top I loved living in there.


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    Lots of violence Weird, trippie fantasy sequences Lots of hot ladies A dude who s a virgin Long descriptions of meals in lieu of sex Overall, a very enjoyable read My favorite parts of this book were 1 Wolfram s occasional, incredibly clunky self referential comments 2 The description of huge sword wielding knights being fed the meat of tiny roasted songbirds by their lady 3 The fact that they ride horses from Wales to France without getting on a boat Apparently the Christian assault on local legends had left everyone confused about basic facts of European geography 4 Spoiler Alert The Holy Grail is guarded by one old man surrounded by dozens of beautiful semi clad women 5 Spoiler Alert The Holy Grail is a jewel, not a cup Who knew


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    Wolfram von Eschenbach s early 13th century poem rendered here from the Middle High German into modern English prose chronicles the events of the title character s life from childhood to knighthood, and of his quest for and attainment of the Grail Along with two chapters devoted to Parzival s father Gahmuret, and several throughout the middle of the story concerning Gawan, the book is a celebration of knighthood, most likely written from the point of view of one of its practitioners More abstractly, it also approaches Jungian archetype territory and Joseph Campbell s ideas about Hero mythology wrongs committed in ignorance block Parzival from obtaining the Grail when it is first revealed to him, and only after the quest s hardships have purged him of ignorance and sin is he rewarded with the earthly and spiritual sublimity of achieving his goal.The Grail of this version is interesting in and of itself Wolfram writes before the object had become wholly associated with either the last supper or Christ s crucifixion, and long before Mallory and Tennyson or Terry Gilliam stamped it into the culture s consciousness as a holy cup Instead, here it is a stone, one that has both life sustaining properties and the power to dispense enough food to supply the entire contingent of knights and ladies stationed at Munsalvaesche the castle of the Grail s keeping The king of this castle, Anfortas, also known as the Fisher King , is gravely wounded it is only the Grail that keeps him alive, albeit in excruciating pain In Munsalvaesche, both king and subjects wait for someone to come who will ask the king the healing question What is it that troubles you Parzival, in his youthful ignorance, stumbles upon the castle and is shown the wonders of the Grail, but in order not to appear foolish, keeps his peace instead of asking the question that will bring the king relief The following morning, he awakes to find his host gone, and as he rides out after him, he discovers that he can no longer find his way back to the castle For the next four and a half years he wanders, dishonored, searching for the Grail Only when the Grail calls to him, by virtue of Parzival s name appearing in writing on the stone, does his quest end.There are several different translations of Parzival available, including this one by Mustard and Passage written in 1961 A.T Hatto translated it for Penguin Classics in 1980, and in 2009, Oxford World s Classics published another version by Cyril Edwards Using the look inside feature on , I compared several paragraphs side by side, and, although I suspect that they all have strengths and weaknesses, if I were forced to pick based on this tiny sample, I would probably go with the Hatto But, as they are all priced similarly, the Oxford edition has the advantage of including a secondary work, which may make it the best value.Translations aside, the question remains as to whom to recommend this work, aside from medievalists and scholars Grail researchers will also be interested, but anyone attempting this book should know it not an effortless read nowhere near as difficult as Chaucer s Canturbury Tales or Beowulf, the translators do still attempt to reproduce Wolfram s style, and all three translations I looked at mimic an older structural and syntactical arrangement A brief example, as Parzival rides into Munsalvaesche for the first time Little gaiety had there been here for many a day the knights were too sad of heart Yet they did not let Parzival feel this, and welcomed him, young and old alike Many pages ran out to seize the bridle of his horse, each one trying to be the first, and held his stirrup for him to dismount Some knights bade him enter the castle, and led him to his chamber, where they quickly and skillfully removed his armor When they then looked upon the youth, with his boy s face, still beardless, and saw how beautiful he was, they confessed that he was indeed richly blessed Mustard and Passage Some readers may find the re telling of Parzival by Lindsay Clarke easier on the eye and ear although there is no look inside to see for sure and even Katherine Paterson s version for younger readers may be all the Parzival that anyone really needs Still, there is an inherent medieval atmosphere in the translations that attempt to replicate the original author s style which is missing in Ms Patterson s re telling, although it s difficult to know how much currency that carries I would probably recommend the others over the re telling simply because it feels authentic but these are translations we re talking about, so none of them are really any authentic than the other.In the end, I found Parzival worthwhile mostly because I appreciate the familiarity with a foundational piece of Western literature, and also because I find it enjoyable to recognize links between modern era literature and its source material I realize that that is a very narrow recommendation I did like the book, but I wouldn t have considered it a five star experience, despite its reputation But, then again, as far as star ratings go, it seems ludicrous to assign a value to a work that has survived over 800 years its very survival seems a better indication of its worth than a star rating by me So I ve opted out of rating this one, though if I d been forced, I would have probably gone with four stars as an indication of its value to me.


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    Parzival took me far too long to read for me to really declare that I liked it Still, once I resolved to finish it already I got through it quite quickly, and it helps that, as with Chr tien s version of the story of the grail, Gawain has a large part to play.Hatto s translation is quite readable, though I believe he tried to capture a lot of the original nature of Wolfram s writing, so it s not always straightforward and to the point The footnotes are very helpful, especially when they indicate alternate translations and stuff like that.The story itself, well, it s pretty much as you d expect of a grail story of that period Most of the knights are paragons of virtue, most of the names are unpronounceable I seriously wonder how some of them came about , the son of a white man and a woman of colour comes out both black and white sort of like a raspberry swirl, I imagine, only black and whiteIt gets points for the very positive portrayal of Gawain, and I was quite intrigued by the footnote which explained that Wolfram had to equivocate a bit because of the pro Gawain audience There s much less potential criticism of Gawain throughout, too I already knew from my research on Heinrich von dem T rlin s work that Gawain was well thought of by the German audience of these texts through Hartmann von Aue still has the hint of criticism of him from Chr tien in Iwein This is just proof, I suppose Wonder what had him so well thought of in Germany, given the mockery of him in France.


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    If vacillation dwell with the heart the soul will rue it Shame and honour clash where the courage of a steadfast man is motley like the magpie But such a man may yet make many, for Heaven and Hell have equal part in him Infidelity s friend is black all over and takes on a musky hue, while the man of loyal temper holds to the white Parzival is a vastly interesting work, if not a little misleading in a way which I ll explain later Based on an incomplete work of de Troyes, Eschenbach s Arthurian tale adds a considerable amount to the lore which so often draws readers into this time period of literature The author also seems to have an amusing amount of self awareness, leading to surprisingly funny instances of self irony While there are times in which I felt Parzival rambles a little bit too long, I am willing to overlook the negatives in favor of the overall positive vibes I got from it The misleading element of this work is that half of the time, Parzival is actually about Gawan While this is alright by me because Gawan is an interesting character and Eschenbach s take on him is quite unique, it really came out of nowhere At least, from how I recall it happening So a accurate title for this work might be Gawan, ft Parzival.


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    Am Anfang hatte ich ja meine argen Probleme mit Parzival, weil ich es als nicht besonders leserfreundlich empfand, jetzt aber, wo ich das gro e ganze hinter mir habe, finde ich die Konzeption einfach nur klasse und Wolfram von Eschenbach sowieso Bisher mochte ich ja Gottfried immer sehr, sehr gerne, aber Wolfram mischt da doch sehr gut mit Im Nachhinein hat Parzival wirklich schrecklich viel zu bieten Vor allem die Gralsgeschichte habe ich sehr gerne gelesen, sowie alles ber Clinschor und Schastel marveile.Ich bin wirklich froh, es doch endlich zuende gelesen zu haben, rate euch aber auch, euch nebenbei Sekund rliteratur zu suchen, denn besonders dieses Zusammenspiel hat das Werk f r mich so interessant gemacht Ich empfehle euch da Bumke und Dallapiazza


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